We, as parents, are called to harm our children.

This is a provocative way of stating something that I think is not controversial: Sometimes we must cause our children temporary and minor pain in order to prevent them suffering greater pain. When we deny them sweets, we are causing them the sadness of not eating something tasty that will give them pleasure; we do this not because we are sadists who like to see our children suffer, but because we don’t want our children to experience the ill effects of eating too much sugar. We deliberately expose them to the chance of minor adverse effects and the (small) chance of major adverse effects of vaccines when we take them to get their shots, because by doing so, we are preventing the much greater chance of them suffering the adverse effects of the illnesses being prevented. When we make our children turn off the TV and run around, we are preventing them enjoying the entertainment that TV provides because we want them to develop their minds and their bodies. When we delay gratification, we are teaching them an extremely important skill that will help them to make good choices in life.

The fact that parenting is a tradeoff between harms explains, I think, why there can be so much dispute over a particular decision that seems trivial to nonparents. Let us consider that battleground of parenting, The Juice Question. According to the American Academy of Pediatrics, a whole piece of fruit is much better for children than is juice, which is sugary and acidic and provides lots of calories without satisfying the appetite. This is a reversal of earlier opinion, which held that juice is good for you because of all the vitamins in it. Parents have the following sets of choices:

a) Allowing unlimited access to juice; if it’s real fruit juice, the children will be obtaining the vitamin C and other nutrients in the juice, but at the cost of wearing down their tooth enamel and taking in empty calories.

b) Allowing limited access to juice, which may include watering down the juice. Since children tend to enjoy juice, they may not replace the nutrients in the juice with suitable amounts of vegetables or even whole fruit, but they’re not expecting sugary drinks as a matter of course.

c) Never keeping juice in the house, but allowing it as an occasional treat at a restaurant or a friend’s house.

d) Treating juice like rat poison and going to extremes to prevent this liquid from ever crossing the child’s lips.

Now there are harms associated with all of these positions, but I would judge most harm occurs at extremes a) and d). Juice really is quite sugary, and in my opinion children shouldn’t drink it every day in place of plain water or milk. (But milk is another controversy.) However, making juice the Forbidden Fruit (drink) is likely to backfire; either the child may develop an exaggerated fear of juice, perhaps making himself unpopular as he lectures upon the evils of OJ, or the child may, upon growing up, overindulge in juice in an effort to make up for his deprived childhood. Or perhaps the child, never having acquired a taste for juice, may choose soda regularly instead, which has all of the detriments and none of the benefits of juice.

Nonparents may read this foregoing and think that the juice question is far too minor and petty to get worked up over. But at least in wealthy countries where children are highly likely to survive to adulthood, I do assure you that parents are constantly agonizing over parental choices, starting from infancy–breast, formula, combo? Sleep training or not? Feed on demand or a schedule? What about cosleeping? Sometimes the stakes really are high. More often a particular choice matters little in the long term, but as parents we are constantly aware that we are navigating sets of possible harms to our children, and trying to minimize harm while maximizing wellbeing. We put sunscreen on our children’s skin to lessen their odds of developing skin cancer, but ensure that they take in adequate Vitamin D to offset the harm done by preventing the sun from producing endogenous Vitamin D.

Differences in parenting are often explained by the different risk assessments parents have: One may believe that the psychological benefits of cosleeping may offset the risks of suffocation and SIDS, whereas another may come to the opposite conclusion. This also explains why parents can be so repulsed by parenting that is different than their own; if you really believe that vaccine-preventable diseases are no big deal and that the additives in the vaccines might hurt your child’s neurological development, then of course you’d be horrified that public health bodies so heavily encourage you to vaccinate your children. On the other hand, if you believe (as I do) that vaccine-preventable diseases can cause significant morbidity and mortality and that vaccines are safe and effective, then of course you’d be horrified that your friend is encouraging everyone to forgo shots in favor of essential oils.

Even when parents agree upon the same facts, they may still make different decisions for their children. Healthy adults harm themselves deliberately. Exercise involves straining one’s body, and causing small amounts of damage to our muscles so that our body may repair them. Without exercise, our bodies atrophy and become weak and dysfunctional. Arthritis makes exercise painful, but this exercise will help improve the arthritic person’s overall pain level. But a person with severe heart disease or some other condition that limits exercise must make different decisions to keep his body in the best possible health than someone without that same condition.

In the same way, the individual parents of individual children may decide to do something different than other parents, and believe that they are doing the best they can for their children without necessarily condemning others’ choices. Very generally speaking, all children need food, shelter, medical attention, education, love, and security. The ways in which these children will obtain the “best” upbringing, however, vary greatly from parent to parent, and from child to child. All of us parents–every single one of us, no matter how excellent and well-meaning we may be–will make mistakes with our children. But it is right and good that we consider how we may do the best for our children, and this world being what it is this means how we shall choose to harm our children.

5 thoughts on “How Should I Harm My Children?

  1. This is very true. I’ve never understood how things like juice (or white bread, food dyes in crackers, etc.) are things moms agonize over, but I have had a lot of mom friends who feel that way.

    On the extremes, I think it depends on how you look at it. I found you from Lori’s site, for instance, and you seem to try to have a more “cool,” or “even keel” approach to the whole stay at home mom vs. working mom argument of which is better.

    But the fact is, you’re too young to really be blogging advice for women when you haven’t yet lived it out and gotten the perspective and wisdom that comes from age. I have a lot of respect for Lori, because she’s earned it through many years and mistakes, and experience etc. She has earned the respect to be writing what she writes, you honestly haven’t (and that’s not bad, it’s just very very true). It’s a harsh truth you probably should shallow and learn to be at peace with.

    This is why the Bible clearly states only aged women (women like Lori) should be trying to teach younger women, because while “extremes” may bother younger women like you, it really is true that often older women have found these so called “extremes” are the way that work best. You’re dealing with a pride issue when you’re concerned about appearing more “open-minded,” so that others will relate to your parenting (or so that you won’t offend your friends or relatives who work). Older women may seem more prideful because of the “extreme” beliefs/opinions, but in reality they’re often telling it how it is (ie, it ain’t coming from pride because they’ve lonnng gotten over what others think of them).

    The Bible doesn’t say “women should teach other women,” it specifically says aged women (grandmothers).

    Not saying you’re not smart, obviously you are, but trying to correct your elders, trying to have a blog where you teach younger women when you haven’t yet even raised ONE child to adulthood, just looks foolish. Again, not trying to be offensive, but who should take advice from someone who hasn’t yet lived out what they’re talking about and can’t see what they’ don’t yet know (the blind leading the blind), much less someone who argues with their elders who are actually much more prepared and effective in teaching what they’re talking about? It just comes across as arrogant or ignorant, again, no offense.

    It’s like a younger, single man with zero relationship experience writing out marriage advice. Sure some of it may work and be helpful, a broken clock is right twice a day and all that, but a lot of it will come from his own pride (arrogance in assuming he knows what he’s talking about when he hasn’t yet lived it), or his limited experience observing others which may or may not be the whole picture. AND a lot of harm can come from people like that… people who haven’t yet lived enough to be teaching what they’re trying to teach. It is one of the reasons the Bible says teachers (and you count as such when you blog from an authoritative position) will be judged much harsher, as they should be, because they should be living in full view (so they can be fully critiqued and examined to see if they’re actually LIVING out their words) of the people who are reading their words.

    With you, we’re only getting a glimpse of who you say you are, and you don’t even post pictures so that we can critique if you live up to your advice and ability to be giving such advice and info. (In other words, for all we know you’re an overweight slob who doesn’t wash her dishes, has a dirty house, doesn’t wear makeup or care to look nice for her husband every day, and yet you’re arguing with Lori who teaches those things and has lived them out and regularly gives us “proof”). Again, no offense, but since it’s the internet, I find it humorous that your presence lacks so much authenticity, yet you talk A LOT about “realness” and such.

    Maybe that’s extreme of me, but most of the men at Dalrock also agree, and have written extensively about how women like you, have no business blogging.

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      1. Seriously though, can we at least get some pictures to assess whether you’re the kind of wife and mother anyone should be paying any attention to?

        Should women be reading someone who 1) is overweight and doesn’t even have the discipline to look good for her husband in her body after kids? 2) doesn’t keep her own house clean, but goes around criticizing everyone else’s while her’s is getting more dirty? 3) a YOUNG female who constantly tries to get MALE attention while her husband is hard away at working, by writing stuff about sex and such, and encouraging single men from Dalrock’s etc to come read and salivate over her “wifely sexiness?”

        It’s obvious that you seek attention from these men, sexual attention even, because you do write about sex and make sure you lure them in by commenting at their sites – all while your husband is at work. Do you feel any guilt about this? Does LORI know you’re basically internet-cuckolding your husband and seeking sexual attention online (a common introvert blogger practice)?

        Reasons why appearance matters so much so that people can decide whether or not you’re someone to be listened to:

        From Dalrock’s where they are criticizing a male blogger’s appearance:

        Deti:
        “Sorry, but this is not the kind of guy I think has much to teach me about biblical patriarchy or masculinity. https://bnonn.com/about/

        From Ray:
        “One look at Bnonn’s photo tells me all I need to know. Here we go again, another soft-faced, doe-eyed non-masculine ‘pastor’ trying to tell men about masculinity and worse, about the masculinity of Father and Jeshua. God help your ridiculous planet, teeming with resentful third-raters.

        Plus — of course — he’s got a daughter. Eets requisite! Making Bnonn another instant fembot, all the yammering about ‘patriarchy’ is just cover. Bnonn is lighting back-fires across Churchianity to squelch any ACTUAL masculine/Christian revival that might occur in Femistan as a result of truth-speaking by a few faithful Christians online. Smother that baby in the womb!

        Bnonn needs twenty years of hard scrabbly knocks in an authentically masculine culture, before he even could possess the necessary rock-foundation upon which King Jeshua MIGHT allow him some real Scriptural understanding and inspiration. Then, perhaps, he’d be ready to teach other men. Mebbe.

        Instead, Bnonn and fellow ‘pastors’ will continue on in their Happy Bubbles where he and his co-milquetoast ‘Christians’ can pretend, in community, that they are tough guys, about Father’s business. His painful, exhausting, saddening, alienating business. I look at that photo, I see a typical man of this world, who has not passed through such things, nor even recognizes their existence and necessity. Bnonn is about the world’s business.

        Got the daughter’s college and career plans laid out yet, Bnonnster? It’s never too soon to start contacting elite colleges, you know. Only the best for your princess!”

        Both of these men are lonnngtime commenters at Dalrock, and they put a VERY heavy importance on how a blogger looks.

        So again, if you’re frumpy, keep your house in disarray while you’re whoring around on the internet to get men’s attention while your husband is away, why should you be blogging?

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  2. Also… you won’t post pictures because I’m fairly certain, being that your blog is brazenly titled “Lazy Mother” that you probably are a lazy woman, the opposite of the Proverbs 31 woman, and the opposite of Lori.

    This means you probably are everything I’ve guessed, and your poor husband has to live with that, AND know you’re an internet whore seeking male attention while he’s gone at work.

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